HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN MTNs? I took over responsibility for funding in August last year together with Bart Toering who is responsible for day-to-day management of our MTN desk. Prior to joining SNS last year, I worked for Barclays Capital in London from 1993, where I was responsible for marketing derivatives to Dutch institutional investors and banks. WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE PART OF THE JOB? The most satisfying part of my job is seeing that our intensive programme of roadshowing SNS to institutional investors throughout Europe has lead to a much broader and more diversified investor base that buy SNS bonds, both geographically and by investor type. We have also spent a lot of time with MTN dealers (both appointed and reverse enquiry) educating them on the SNS credit. Our strict policy of rewarding dealers who actively place SNS MTNs with a role in our public deals has paid off. Dealers know that they can expect to lead our public deals if they place a lot of MTNs or schuldscheine. This year we placed euro3.5 billion ($3 billion) in 150 private deals, so dealers should have a fair idea of their eligibility for leading SNS public deals. WHO IS YOUR FAVOURITE DEALER OF THE MONTH? Just look at who lead our last public issue, our euro700 million 6% October 2007. The syndicate consisted of Merrill Lynch, HSBC, Goldman Sachs, BNP Paribas, Deutsche Bank, Nomura, Salomon Smith Barney and UBS Warburg. These were the investment banks that placed most of our private deals in recent months. WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST INTERESTING TRADE YOU HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS? Being an issuer we tend to have a different focus. Dealers know what our funding targets are for vanilla deals in various maturities and that we knock-off four to five basis points for structures. We are very flexible in structured notes, and do not have a view on whether the structure is interesting or not, as long as it meets investor demand. The only structure we cannot do is credit-linked, because we do not have the systems to mark-to-market the underlying derivative. When a dealer can match our target he knows we will give him a mandate to execute the deal quickly. WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TREND IN THE NEXT QUARTER? Equity and debt capital markets seem to be in a very delicate equilibrium at the moment. Corporate spreads have widened considerably in recent months, starting in the telecom sector. Refinancing of debt through equity issues by heavily leveraged firms may prove difficult in current markets and could well affect profitability of investment banks underwriting these bridge finances and syndicated loans. Although SNS has no exposure whatsoever to the telecom sector or emerging markets, our secondary spreads have been affected slightly as well. I sincerely hope, for all involved in this industry, that things will ease in the next quarter. WHAT ANNOYS YOU MOST ABOUT THE MARKET? There are still a few dealers around trying to bully their way into the syndicate of our public bond issues, knowing that they are not eligible because they haven't placed MTNs for SNS. The number is declining rapidly though and our policy has the full backing of the board of directors of SNS Reaal Group. WHICH OF YOUR COMPETITORS DO YOU ADMIRE MOST AND WHY? Abbey National. I am impressed by the detail of information on the site of Abbey National Treasury Services, especially their bond database. We have spent a lot of time developing our own investor relations web site, and our mortgage-backed securities site. IF YOU WEREN'T AN MTN DEALER WHAT WOULD YOU BE? I would live in the south of France, buying, restoring and selling under-developed retail property. WHAT CAR DO YOU OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO DRIVE? The ultimate family car a Volvo V70 during the week. When I moved back to the Netherlands last year I brought along my RHD 1973 Triumph Stag. WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE RESTAURANT? Undoubtedly Chez Georges, 3 Herenstraat, Amsterdam. The best food in town in a living-room sized restaurant run by the Belgian Georges and his wife Betsie.
December 08, 2000